Here and Now - Bashas' Bankruptcy, Robert Glennon and Water Use

14 July
2008

Here and Now - Bashas' Bankruptcy, Robert Glennon and Water Use

[Environment] [Economy] [Science and Technology] [Growth & Development]

I first encountered U of A law professor Robert Glennon a decade ago. For some reason he chose to become an expert in water use law, perhaps one of the most difficult areas of legal practice that I have encountered in my 20 years in journalism. It doesn't help that water law in Arizona doesn't make much sense, but I digress.

Yet, becoming a wonk on the minutia of water rights wasn't enough for Glennon. Nope. In his latest book Unquechable: America's Water Crisis and What To Do About It, Glennon takes readers on a tour of all the silly, stupid ways we use water in America, including many practices that will leave you saying "Wow! I didn't know that."

I won't ruin the book for you, or his interview on Here and Now by revealing some of the more interesting factoids here, but let's just say this should be required reading for EVERYONE in Arizona, and the U.S.--or, at least suggested reading.

If you have a comment or question for Mr. Glennon, fire away. Also, if you've got any good one-line water jokes, you can pass those along too--Glennon will be on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart Thursday night. Although I'm sure once the Comedy Central audience hears about some of the various ways we waste water, they won't be laughing.

Posted by Paul Atkinson - Here and Now Producer at 11:00 | Comments (11) | Trackbacks (128)

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Re: Here and Now - Bashas' Bankruptcy, Robert Glennon and Water Use

Is there a point when Arizonans should admit they shouldn't have lawns and golf courses in the desert? We do have junior water rights on the Colorado, so we should have junior golf courses.

Posted by: Otis at July 15,2009 11:26

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What about expanding Advanced Management Areas (like Phoenix and Prescott) to the whole state of Arizona? Do you think that a requirement to prove the availability of water for 100 years into the future before development would stop unsustainable growth in water-scarce areas?

Posted by: Andrea at July 15,2009 11:27

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I do not agree that population growth is the "elephant in the room." Agricultural usage may be, but look at LA--they have grown markedly but have done so with decreasing per capita use so that their total urban use has stayed roughly constant over the past 30 years.

Keep in mind that 100,000 GPD is 112 acre-feet per year, a pittance compared to the total take, so its understandable that no permit is required.

Posted by: Damian Bickett at July 15,2009 11:30

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Can you speak to the relationship between water and energy? How do you foresee Arizona handling policies related to water used for electricity generation?

Posted by: Cynthia at July 15,2009 11:36

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Have Arizonans been spoiled by the skilled water managers in the state? Is the everyman oblivious to how scarce water really is...in the desert?

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"What do we think water is for?"

This is not for political folk to decide--it is for individuals to decide. Therefore, if we are very concerned about profligate use, whatever the use may be, then we ought to use tiered pricing with a steep second tier to let users who need to wash their sidewalks do so, but only if they are able to pay.

Posted by: Damian Bickett at July 15,2009 11:38

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Hi Dr. Glennon,

I have read much of your work, and really admire you. As a student of sustainability – particularly of decision-making and scientific information in water resource issues – I wonder how you would characterize the role of institutions in bringing different types of knowledges to bear on different types of actions. For example, in Arizona, the Arizona Water Institute was established a few years ago to be the force that would facilitate greater collaboration among policy-makers, university researchers, and various stakeholder “publics” – it lost funding, and now is no longer operating. What do you think about the work it did and the lessons that can be learned from its experiences for efforts to study and to implement knowledge-action integration toward greater water resource sustainability?

Thanks!!

Posted by: CMS at July 15,2009 11:39

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Glennon forgets what really happened in Tucson--although they tried to raise prices, and the council all lost their jobs, the NEW council members who took their place under the oath of rescinding the water rate increases eventually realized that the original council members were right, and eventually kept the price increases. So it can be done, and if a few politicians lose their jobs, so be it.

Posted by: Damian Bickett at July 15,2009 11:44

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Addendum about tucson -- the new council actually raised rates above what the recalled council members called for, and committed to increasing rates over the next three years, and this was all within 6 weeks of the recall election.

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After witnessing a McDonald's employee "watering the parking lot" I have been doing some research on how fast food establishments clean their parking lots. I have called many places in Phoenix and across the country. The majority of fast food chains spray down their entire parking lots with water, daily! This is an effort to keep the area free of debris, infestations of bugs, and clear of grease and oil. Still, what an INCREDIBLE misuse of water. Imagine how many gallons are wasted on a daily basis because people are too lazy to pick up spilled fries. To me it is a blaring example of how our dirty cars contribute to the destruction of the planet and why fast food is so disgusting. In order to reverse this cycle we all need to participate in a huge cultural mind shift.

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