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Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

20 February
2008

Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

A panel made up of two former Arizona US Attorneys, a former Arizona Attorney General, and Maricopa County Attorney has recommended a new policy for Phoenix Police to deal with illegal immigrants. Police will ask immigration status of anyone arrested for a misdemeanor or felony crime, but not for civil violations, such as jaywalking, speeding, etc. They will also not ask immigration status of victims and eyewitnesses. What do you think of the new policy? Does it go far enough? Not enough? Or too far?

Plus, what are your thoughts on the state's employer sanctions law now that a federal judge has said it's legal. Is that giant sucking sound coming from the thousands of illegal immigrants leaving the state afraid they won't find jobs? Are business owners suffering because they can't find workers, or are they having to pay more to get people to do jobs? Post your comments and questions below!


Posted by Paul Atkinson / Here and Now Producer at 11:00 | Comments (9) | Trackbacks (79)
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Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

Does it go far enough? Not enough? Or too far?
The answer is going to be yes and no to all those questions.The Mayor is sure to have criticism from both sides of the issue. Thats what is so difficult about this issue.

I think Gordon has struck a good balance. When that happens, many will say not enough, many will say too far. Lets give Gordon credit for saying this policy is 20 years old and must adapt with times.

20 years ago who would have thought that the Federal Govt would be planning on a program to bail out individuals facing mortgage foreclosures? Who even thought this woudl be an issue. Same with immigrtation. Times have changed and I for one credit Gordon for doing something proactive instead of sitting on his hands. That is leadership.

Posted by: Owen Murray at February 19,2008 12:47
Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

This seems like a good balance to me, especially in the case of victims of crimes and eyewitnesses. If the govt sees fit to make deals with multiple murders like Sammy the Bull Gravano to put away dozens of other thugs and murderers, then surely the same type of policy can be used by local police to bust gangs, drug cartels and human smuggling rings. If someone in this country illegally helps bring down a murderer or rapist or other felon with their testimony or information, thats OK by me if they stay here.

Posted by: Cliff Roberts at February 19,2008 13:05
Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

Sounds to me like both guests are looking to solidify Phoenix as a "sanctuary city". My experience with illegals has been two car accidents (both times illegals and them receiving the citations), costing me thousands of dollars beyond what I already pay for these people to be here, poor, broke with nothing but assistance from me and my government. Sick of it, sick of it. I'm a Arizona 45 year Az native and I have all kinds of hispanic friends and relatives, we are all sick of the illegals taking advantage of America.

Thank You

Posted by: DMR at February 20,2008 11:23
Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

I can't tell Minnesotans from Canadians. Will the police be asking potential Canadians descent their immigration status? I think not.

Posted by: Jonathan at February 20,2008 11:33
Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

Which of the political canidates immigration plan does the City of Phoenix think is the best for our city?

Posted by: Pam at February 20,2008 11:45
Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

One of the guests stated that illegal immigration was a minor crime.

Who decides what constitutes a minor crime and which minor crimes are prosecuted and which are not prosecuted.

Isn't a crime a crime?

Posted by: Kristofer Halvorson at February 20,2008 11:47
Pam's Question

Pam,

I'm not sure our panel would be in a position to answer your question. Although, I think it's an excellent question that needs to be asked.

Here's a good resource that shows where candidates stand on immigration:
http://www.npr.org/news/specials/election2008/issues/immigration.html

Posted by: Paul Atkinson / Here and Now Producer at February 20,2008 11:50
Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

I keep hearing the term "illegal alien" and I would just like to request that the term be stricken from the rhetoric used by commentators. If you could please make an effort to use the term "undocumented immigrant" instead of "illegal alien". No human being is illegal and the use of the term further dehumanizes undocumented individuals. Thank you.

Posted by: Miguel at February 20,2008 12:02
Re: Here and Now: Local Immigration Policies

Re: HB2791 Temporary workers bill. Transparency is required when this is discussed. Rep. Konopinicki owns many
McDonalds fast food resturants. This bill is self serving.

I am challenging you to bring forward the voices of those yet not heard on this topic.
Where are the people whom must live in the mist of the growing modern ghettos, being created by the need of 8-12 adults making non liveable wages to all pile into one house. The City of Phoenix Housing department indicates that to afford a studio apartment with no bedroom one must earn $10.56 per hour.
To afford a 2 bedrrom apartment one must earn $16.06 per hour.

These dormatory houses are easy to locate, look for 6-9 vehicles and 300 gallon community trash cans that are over filled with trash all over the ground with in hours of the once a week trash pick up.

So I challenge you to speak to the long term, often elderly residence who have seen the rapid detteriation in the neighborhoods where they raised there now productive adult children! What I have heard time and time again is they have been trasported to a 3rd world country.

Tuesday afternoon a 28 foot RV was wondering around the neighbhorhood. I called Crime Stop because it did not appear to have a license plate. Apparently another neighbor had also called in, because he witnessed them unloading their waste as they drove around. The RV is being parked in the back yard of a residence, as addtiona living space for the over
crowded home. Did you know that you can put a Portable toilet in your back yard in Phoenix?
As long as you have it serviced it is OK.

So I challenge you to talk to the folks who are watching their quality of life "go right down the toilet".

Posted by: L.Fitzhugh at February 20,2008 12:14
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